Re: [plug] PDA/Phone programming platform

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Author: Carlos Yu
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To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List
Subject: Re: [plug] PDA/Phone programming platform
Hey Pablo,

Have you looked at Qtopia, Trolltech's mobile SDK? Open source C++ SDK
that can run on Linux as well as WinCE devices from the same code base.
Might also solve your problem of having to look for a Linux phone. You
can initially develop using an O2XDA or any other WinCE based phone.





Pablo Manalastas wrote:
> I am thinking of OpenMoko Linux as a platform for open source
> PDA/phone programming, and not the Neo as a possibly commercially
> successful mobile phone. The future commercial success of the Neo
> is just a secondary objective to me. If any OpenMoko Linux phone,
> by some accident, becomes commercially successful, then the investment
> in learning OpenMoko Linux phone programming becomes worth it.
>
> The choice of OpenMoko Linux is the only real choice, for the moment.
> Compare the following PDA/phone SDKs:
>
> 1. Windows Mobile 2003 SDK on eVC++4.0. The driver for the PDA or
> phone emulator will not install on Windows XP, so you can not test your
> programs on the emulator. Can you even produce executables for the
> ARM hardware? I do not know. I tried for the O2 Xda IIs, but failed.
>
> 2. PalmOS Garnet SDK. PalmOS is gone, and all the new Treo phones
> are now running Windows Mobile. PalmOS is a beautiful developer's
> platform, with beautiful documentation, but it is dead.
>
> 3. Nokia Symbian Series 60, 2nd Edition, FP2 for Nokia 6680. The indian
> expert from Nokia who showed the use of the SIP protocol stack could not
> even get the demo programs to compile, much less to work. If the Nokia
> expert could not do this, how much less is the chance that we normal
> programmers can get the demo programs from Nokia to work? Have you
> seen the quality of the Nokia documentation for their SDK? Do you know
> how much professional membership in Forum Nokia costs? My annual
> salary in Ateneo will not be enough to pay for annual subscription.
>
> 4. iPhone SDK. Has anyone in PLUG any idea what this is? Has anyone ever
> downloaded it?
>
> 5. OpenMoko Toolchain (http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain). I have
> not really used this, because it is too new, and I do not even have
> the Neo
> phone to develop for, but after reading the web page, I can see some hope.
> Now all I have to do is look for developer (API) documentation.
>
> 6. J2ME. This is what the folks (at the Ateneo Java Wireless Competency
> Center) use. Using Java, all they have to do is learn one tool set
> (and the implementation details for each particular phone), and they
> can develop
> for any phone with Java. But Java is interpreted, and on a 400MHz ARM
> phone, interpreted Java will run much slower.
>
> Pablo Manalastas
> ***
>
> --- On *Fri, 7/11/08, Orlando Andico /<orly.andico@???>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Orlando Andico <orly.andico@???>
>     Subject: Re: [plug] Openmoko Neo Freerunner available for USD399.00
>     To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion
>     List" <plug@???>
>     Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 9:56 AM

>
>     IIRC Symbian is going open-source.

>
>     http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208800628

>
>     I have had a look at the OpenMoko phone before and frankly it's
>     underwhelming. As others have pointed out, the hardware is so 2003.
>     Besides lots of companies have done Linux phones (Motorola in
>     particular and also Nokia with the 770) and haven't fared too well.

>
>     Before the iPhone came along, I would say that Linux is too large and
>     clunky for mobile phones. But Apple disproved that.

>
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